Comments on: And the winner is… http://blog.cmsmadesimple.org/2007/10/20/and-the-winner-is/ Bits From The CMSMS Community Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:49:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: OndraK http://blog.cmsmadesimple.org/2007/10/20/and-the-winner-is/#comment-2358 OndraK Thu, 20 Dec 2007 08:48:03 +0000 http://blog.cmsmadesimple.org/2007/10/20/and-the-winner-is/#comment-2358 Now when the new design applied it seems to me that it's too loose in space: in the forge where there is a lot of lists (file releases, most downloaded, ...), the comments on news etc. Too loose, toooo much scrolling. Compare to the left menu here which is kind of denser. For instance white backgrounded comments take approx 2em more vertical space than the gray ones. But anyway: looks more attractive and the newcommers will not leave immediately :) Now when the new design applied it seems to me that it’s too loose in space: in the forge where there is a lot of lists (file releases, most downloaded, …), the comments on news etc. Too loose, toooo much scrolling. Compare to the left menu here which is kind of denser.

For instance white backgrounded comments take approx 2em more vertical space than the gray ones.

But anyway: looks more attractive and the newcommers will not leave immediately :)

]]> By: Matt http://blog.cmsmadesimple.org/2007/10/20/and-the-winner-is/#comment-2292 Matt Fri, 16 Nov 2007 07:08:04 +0000 http://blog.cmsmadesimple.org/2007/10/20/and-the-winner-is/#comment-2292 so rob, welcome to OS. Where the income doesnt meet anything close to any private industry role but offers something far greater than you could possibly expect from anything you would pay a mid price for. To be realistic. The majority of my bottom end clients would not be able to operate without any sort of open sourced product because costs are normally in excess of 10 to 20 grand. (in my experience anyway) Thank you for everyones input. From the developers, to module writers, developers and the people that help out on the forums. You are all wonderful and valued contributers! Hands down. The best piece of OS ive seen in a long time. Well done! so rob, welcome to OS. Where the income doesnt meet anything close to any private industry role but offers something far greater than you could possibly expect from anything you would pay a mid price for.

To be realistic. The majority of my bottom end clients would not be able to operate without any sort of open sourced product because costs are normally in excess of 10 to 20 grand. (in my experience anyway)

Thank you for everyones input. From the developers, to module writers, developers and the people that help out on the forums. You are all wonderful and valued contributers!

Hands down. The best piece of OS ive seen in a long time. Well done!

]]> By: Tim Oxley http://blog.cmsmadesimple.org/2007/10/20/and-the-winner-is/#comment-2270 Tim Oxley Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:21:22 +0000 http://blog.cmsmadesimple.org/2007/10/20/and-the-winner-is/#comment-2270 @Rob Is that a joke? That's like saying: "Don't donate money to people in need because if poor people have money it devalues the money of the rich." If the design competition is NOT FOR PROFIT, and the company wasn't likely to fork out money to pay a designer to make a design anyway, then wtf does it matter if someone does it for free? Noone lost. Someone won. Everyone who entered the competition did so knowing they MIGHT not win, therefore they were probably volunteering their time and not getting paid. Yeah. Volunteers are such terrible people. It's also equivalent to saying: "Don't donate time/money to open source software because it devalues the work programmers do. " By using CMSMS you are being a consumer of such a product and participating in the 'negative practice' you are complaining about. Maybe you should stop using cmsms, and wikipedia, and most of the internet which is powered on apache/linux. These projects really are just ruining the world we lived in 10 years ago. Heck, I'm gonna go put on a Metallica CD...oh the nostalgia. Maybe your work for the RIAA or microsoft where money is the only measure of success, in that case you're excused as it's not your fault. I blame the parents. -Tim @Rob
Is that a joke?
That’s like saying:
“Don’t donate money to people in need because if poor people have money it devalues the money of the rich.”
If the design competition is NOT FOR PROFIT, and the company wasn’t likely to fork out money to pay a designer to make a design anyway, then wtf does it matter if someone does it for free? Noone lost. Someone won. Everyone who entered the competition did so knowing they MIGHT not win, therefore they were probably volunteering their time and not getting paid. Yeah. Volunteers are such terrible people.

It’s also equivalent to saying:
“Don’t donate time/money to open source software because it devalues the work programmers do. ”
By using CMSMS you are being a consumer of such a product and participating in the ‘negative practice’ you are complaining about. Maybe you should stop using cmsms, and wikipedia, and most of the internet which is powered on apache/linux. These projects really are just ruining the world we lived in 10 years ago. Heck, I’m gonna go put on a Metallica CD…oh the nostalgia.

Maybe your work for the RIAA or microsoft where money is the only measure of success, in that case you’re excused as it’s not your fault. I blame the parents.

-Tim

]]> By: Rob http://blog.cmsmadesimple.org/2007/10/20/and-the-winner-is/#comment-2042 Rob Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:17:40 +0000 http://blog.cmsmadesimple.org/2007/10/20/and-the-winner-is/#comment-2042 Competitions like this are great for the client (CMSMS in this case) but are horrible for the design industry in general. This, like all design competitions, where only the chosen "winner" gets something is considered spec work and generally is a negative practice. However, considering that this is a freeware under the GNU/GPL licence, I can see the reasoning here. Still, it is a point to be made... don't participate in unpaid design competitions. It devalues what we do. Competitions like this are great for the client (CMSMS in this case) but are horrible for the design industry in general. This, like all design competitions, where only the chosen “winner” gets something is considered spec work and generally is a negative practice. However, considering that this is a freeware under the GNU/GPL licence, I can see the reasoning here. Still, it is a point to be made… don’t participate in unpaid design competitions. It devalues what we do.

]]> By: the-golem http://blog.cmsmadesimple.org/2007/10/20/and-the-winner-is/#comment-2038 the-golem Sun, 28 Oct 2007 08:11:49 +0000 http://blog.cmsmadesimple.org/2007/10/20/and-the-winner-is/#comment-2038 I really like the new design, and the new logo! I suggest a few more logos to go along with it, such as a "Powered by CMSMS" one also I really like the new design, and the new logo! I suggest a few more logos to go along with it, such as a “Powered by CMSMS” one also

]]> By: JP http://blog.cmsmadesimple.org/2007/10/20/and-the-winner-is/#comment-2035 JP Sun, 28 Oct 2007 03:59:00 +0000 http://blog.cmsmadesimple.org/2007/10/20/and-the-winner-is/#comment-2035 The Light CMS website is hideous. To call that fresh and trendy is like calling Britney hot - it just ain't true. Nice design Steve. It's very clean and to the point. Kudos. The Light CMS website is hideous. To call that fresh and trendy is like calling Britney hot - it just ain’t true.

Nice design Steve. It’s very clean and to the point. Kudos.

]]> By: Todd http://blog.cmsmadesimple.org/2007/10/20/and-the-winner-is/#comment-1996 Todd Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:15:50 +0000 http://blog.cmsmadesimple.org/2007/10/20/and-the-winner-is/#comment-1996 How about a redesign of the admin area. We all know how easy cmcms is to use but the design does not show that off. Looking forward to having the admin area themable in cmcms 2.0. How about a redesign of the admin area. We all know how easy cmcms is to use but the design does not show that off. Looking forward to having the admin area themable in cmcms 2.0.

]]> By: Johan Sandberg http://blog.cmsmadesimple.org/2007/10/20/and-the-winner-is/#comment-1993 Johan Sandberg Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:07:51 +0000 http://blog.cmsmadesimple.org/2007/10/20/and-the-winner-is/#comment-1993 Nice design! A worthy winner. To bad we didn't have time to participate, but I doubt we could have done any better anyway (different, but not better!!!) Nice design! A worthy winner. To bad we didn’t have time to participate, but I doubt we could have done any better anyway (different, but not better!!!)

]]> By: vinz http://blog.cmsmadesimple.org/2007/10/20/and-the-winner-is/#comment-1972 vinz Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:04:21 +0000 http://blog.cmsmadesimple.org/2007/10/20/and-the-winner-is/#comment-1972 The design is nice but as tomas said, it's kinda common... i was looking for something more fresh and trendy such as Light CMS : http://www.speaklight.com/ . I think there is too much text, the home page look dense. Anyway, it's far better than the actual one ;) The design is nice but as tomas said, it’s kinda common… i was looking for something more fresh and trendy such as Light CMS : http://www.speaklight.com/ . I think there is too much text, the home page look dense.
Anyway, it’s far better than the actual one ;)

]]> By: Nils http://blog.cmsmadesimple.org/2007/10/20/and-the-winner-is/#comment-1967 Nils Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:28:39 +0000 http://blog.cmsmadesimple.org/2007/10/20/and-the-winner-is/#comment-1967 Very nice layout. Very well done and as it seems quite user-friendly. Would be nice to do a logo-contest as well. Very nice layout. Very well done and as it seems quite user-friendly. Would be nice to do a logo-contest as well.

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